Notes


Note for:   Adeline Maria Pattle,   19 MAR 1812 - 26 MAY 1836          Index
SEE SIR HUGH ORANGE p.33-49 FOR HER LIFE & FAMILY. ALSO JOAN HOSEASON LETT ERS
1975/93 FOR CONNECTIONS. SEE TREE FOR DESCENDANTS OF CHILDRE N; ADELINE ANNE b.
1833 d.1902;MARY JULIA; ROSE PRINSEP b.1835. BENGAL PAST & P RESENT VOL.3 P.349
FOR WEDDING - BEST MAN WAS COUNT WALEWSKI, SON OF NAPOLEON T HE GREAT (ORANGE).
ADELINE ANNE m. HOSEASO N
Internet mentions she married Lord Henry Somerset who prefer red his footmen...
LT.:
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HE WAS KNOWN AS "THE MOOLAH" (BENGAL PAST & PR ESENT VOL.1 p27 & IB NOTES )

Notes


Note for:   Colin Mackenzie,   25 MAR 1806 - 23 OCT 1881          Index
Occupation:   
     Place:   48th Madras Native Infantry

Individual note:   
A blonde adonis

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Note for:   Sara Monckton Pattle,   16 AUG 1816 - 15 DEC 1887          Index
Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disabili ty
Sara PRINSEY Head W Female 63 Calcutta, India Fundhold
Blanche M. CLOGSTON Niece U Female 18 Madras, India Schol ar
Laura GURNEY G Child Female 14 London Pimlico, London, Middles ex, England Scholar
Rachel A. GURNEY G Child Female 13 London Pimlico, London, Mid dlesex, England Scholar
Mary A. KLITZ Serv U Female 28 Lymington, Hampshire, Engla nd Ladys Companion
Maria A. GILLEN Serv U Female 30 Lorraine Thionville (F) Lad ys Maid
Mary PRYCE Serv U Female 22 Shrewsbury Cook (Domesti
Fanny THORNTON Serv U Female 19 Albury, Surrey, England Parlo urmaid
Rachel VIDLER Serv U Female 23 Hampshire, England Housema id
Rosalie BONCOEUR Serv U Female 20 Dindn (F), France Kitchenma id
Annie CHATFIELD Serv U Female 20 Portslade, Sussex, England L aundry Maid


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Source Information:
Dwelling 24 Lewes Cresct
Census Place Brighton, Sussex, England
Family History Library Film 1341254
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1076 / 116
Page Number 48


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Note for:   Henry Thoby Prinsep,   15 JUL 1792 - 11 FEB 1878         Index
Christening:   
     Date:   18 AUG 1792
     Place:   Mountnessing, Essex
Occupation:   
     Date:   1851
     Place:   MP for Harwick


Notes


Note for:   Henry Auriol Thoby Prinsep,   3 MAY 1836 - 1914         Index
Occupation:   
     Date:   1875
     Place:   Judge at Calcutta High Court


Notes


Note for:   Valentine Cameron Prinsep,   1838 - 11 NOV 1904          Index
Occupation:   
     Place:   Artist. In 1876 Prinsep visited India where he had been asked to paint the ceremony which marked Queen Victoria's ascension to Empress of India

Individual note:   
Dwelling:1 Holland Park Rd
Census Place:1 Holland Park Rd, Kensington, London, Middlesex, England
Source:FHL Film 1341006 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0027 Folio 134 P age 9
MarrAgeSexBirthplace
Valentine C. PRINSEPU43 MCalcutta BS, India
Rel:Head
Occ:ARA Artist
Edwd. HARTM33 MGravesend, Kent, England
Rel:Serv
Occ:Butler Dom
Sarah J. HARTM31 FWandsworth, Surrey, England
Rel:Serv
Occ:Housekeeper Dom
Edwd. A. HART 3 MKensington, Middlesex, England
Harry A. HART 1 MKensington, Middlesex, England
Harvey W. HART 3 mMKensington, Middlesex, England
Annie MALEYU21 FChilkmark, Wiltshire, England
Rel:Serv
Occ:Housemaid Dom
Louisa PAXMANU14 FBrinkley, Cambridge, England
Rel:Serv
Occ:Nursemaid Dom


Obituary - Valentine Cameron Prinsep
1838-1904

The Times Moday 14th November 1904.

Death Notice. PRINSEP

On the 11th inst. From the result of an operation Valentine Cameron Prins ep RA, second son of the late Henry Thoby Prinsep, aged 66 years.

OBITUARY Mr Val Prinsep RA.

Another serious loss has befallen the Royal Academy by the death of Mr Val entine Cameron Prinsep RA, which occurred on Friday at Holland-park from t he effects of an operation. To all his acquaintances the sight of his ta ll and sturdy figure and the knowledge that his eminent father liv ed to be 86, seemed to promise a long life to "Val" as he was always affec tionately called; and the news of his death will therefore be as unexpect ed as it is lamentable.

He was born in 1838, the second of three sons of Henry Thoby Prinsep, a ll of whom became distinguished men. The father was one of the ablest of I ndian Civil Servants of his time; he was Persian Secretary to the Governme nt, and was in the confidence of many Viceroys and after his return home w as for sixteen years a member of the Council of India. What was even mo re important for his second son was that he settled at (the old), Little H olland-house, became a close friend of G F Watts, and made his home a cent re of artistic and literary society. Under these influences young Prins ep grew up; his genial nature, his fine physique, and his real gif ts as an artist made him the friend of the best of the young painters a nd the intimate of Burne-Jones and all the group. His first work was do ne in association with Rossetti and Morris was at Oxford, where he paint ed one of the compartments of the Hall of the Oxford Union; an episo de of which he published, some years ago, a very amusing account. A litt le later he spent some time in Paris, and it is no secret that he unconsci ously sat for the part of big Taffy in his friend Du Maurier's famous nov el "Trilby." After his time of training was over, Prinsep returned to Lond on and began to exhibit with great success. His art had a close affinity w ith that of his lifelong friend Leighton, and we recollect one early pictu re of his, the figure of a girl carrying a sheaf of corn, which was as cla ssical as any Leighton and perhaps finer in colour. He first exhibit ed at the Royal Academy in 1862, and never failed to show a picture, or mo re than one up to the end of his life. In 1879 he was elected ARA, a nd in 1894 was promoted to RA. A great event in his career, was his bei ng chosen to paint Lord Lytton's great Durbar of 1877, when the Queen w as declared Empress of India; and the choice was justified both by Prinsep 's merits as a painter and by his family's Indian record. The vast canv as was exhibited in 1880, and is now, we believe, in Buckingham Palace.

In 1884 Mr Prinsep married Miss Florence Leyland, daughter of Mr Leylan d, of Prince's-gate, shipowner, connoisseur, and art patron. After Mr Leyl and's death, some very instructive extracts from his correspondence with R ossetti, Whistler, and other artists were published by Princep in the A rt Journal. But this was by no means his only excursion into Literatur e. He wrote an account of his Indian tour; he wrote two novels; and two pl ays of his "Cousin Dick," and "M le Duc" were produced at London theatre s. He was, in truth, almost too versatile. In Who's Who specifying his rec reations, he wrote down "most games"; and indeed up to middle life he exce lled in many of them, beside all the other accomplishments of which he w as possessed. When Millais died there was some talk of electing Prins ep as his successor in the Presidency. Perhaps had he concentrated himse lf more upon painting he might have had the post, if he had chosen to acce pt it; but he was a rich man, with all-round tastes and interests, a nd he had not latterly been sufficiently a painter. None the less, his lo ss will be deeply regretted by his colleagues, and by a very large circ le of friends.

Mr Prinsep's wife survives him, and he leaves three sons.

A Memorial Service will be held at St Paul's Cathedral at 11.30 on Wednesd ay next. Friends desiring to attend are required to apply to Mr Charl es T Knight, 1 Holland-park-road, Kensington, for a card of admission. T he interment will take place on the afternoon of the same day at Brompt on Cemetery, at an hour to be fixed hereafter.

MY COMMENTS

This otherwise excellent obituary is notable for a glaring sin of omissio n. It totally fails to mention the mother of the artist, Sara Prinsep (181 6-1887), one of the seven remarkable Pattle sisters, who included Julia Ma rgaret Cameron (1815-1879), the pioneering photographer. Sara was the foc us and prime-mover in the remarkable artistic and literary salon she creat ed at Little Holland House. Her much older husband Thoby was less involve d. G F Watts came to visit, and stayed at the house for many years, a nd it was his influence, which decided the young Val Prinsep to beco me an artist. Regular visitors to Little Holland House in the 1850s includ ed many of the most famous artistic and literary figures of the day. Gues ts included Tennyson, Dickens, Browning, Burne-Jones, and Rossetti. Sara P rinsep was regarded by her circle as a figure of unique charm and intellec t.

As mentioned in the obituary Val Prinsep was a robust young man, with a ph ysique like a heavyweight prize-fighter. When he was young he was 6 fe et 2 inches tall and weighed 230 lbs, without, it was said, an ounce of fa t. It was widely held that he did not fulfill his artistic potential, wi th commentators speculating this was due to his marriage to the fabulous ly wealthy Florence Leyland, or the breadth of his interests. Perhaps it w as a combination of both? Val Prinsep's artistic debt to, and lifelong fri endship with Lord Leighton are mentioned-he was with the PRA when he die d. He was a genial, popular man. One of the three sons of Val and Floren ce was Anthony Leyland Prinsep, a well-known theatrical manager, produc er of many successful plays at the Globe Theatre in the 1920s.


Valentine Cameron Prinsep
1838 - 1904

Val Prinsep was the son of an senior Indian Civil Servant, Thoby Prinse p, and his far more extrovert wife, Sara, one of the celebrated Pattle sis ters, the most famous of whom was Julia Margaret Cameron 1815-1879, the gr eat pioneering photographer. If any one individual could be describ ed as a Pre-Raphaelite photographer it was she.
Prinsep was brought-up at Little Holland House in London, where his moth er kept open house, and the most interesting artistic salon of the day. Ha bitues included Dickens, Tennyson, Bourne-Jones, Browning, Rossetti, and C arlyle. In the famous words of Sara Prinsep, G F Watts 'came to stay thr ee days; he stayed thirty years.' Here under Watt's influence the young V al Prinsep decided to become a painter. Prinsep was a tall, powerfully bui lt, imposing individual.

He became ARA in 1878, and a full RA in 1894. He was Professor of Painti ng at the RA from 1901 until his death. He married Florence Leyland, daugh ter of the industrial magnate and art collector Frederick Leyland, thus be coming extremely wealthy. Prinsep painted genre pictures and portrait s. It is widely felt that Prinsep did not achieve his true potential- Wat ts felt that he just did not work hard enough. His paintings are he ld to be very uneven in quality. He was, though, an important figure in t he Victorian art world.